hair loss at base of tail. no itching no rubbing no worms

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  • greathorseart.com Original Poster
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    My warmblood mare’s tail is getting thinner every day.
    Hair falls out in your hand from the root but only from about 4 inches from the top of the tail in the middle of the tail. There is no itching, no rubbing. Mane and coat all in good condition. Horse is in box stall with run. Tested negative for worms. Vet has looked at it and does not know what it is. Tried anti-fungal, shampoos, tea tree oil, cortisone creme. aloe vera, listerine, baby oil. She is allergic to MTG.
    Not selenium toxicity. Not rain rot.
    Diet is grass hay and rice bran and grouond flax seed.
    She gets smartpaks to add to vitamins in her hay and smartflex senior.
    Any ideas what this could be or how to treat?
    Vet thinks maybe hormonal. Dogs treated with melatonin for hair loss on tail and wants to try that but dogs don’t lose hair the same way.
    Help!

    wyoenglishrider wyoenglishrider
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    Yikes. My mare is also losing hair in the same place-but she is rubbing. Again-no worms, rest of her coat is healthy, soft, shiny. I hope someone comes up with some ideas to help you-I will be curious to see what others think! Good Luck!

    greathorseart.com Original Poster
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    the only thing I can tell you is that if you want to clear out any scruff left from dirt, conditioners, silicone detanglers ect that might cause itching and then rubbing is to rinse the tail in a white vinegar solution. It really gets the area squeaky clean. Others have told me that they then rinse the area with listerine and it stops the itch and thus the rubbing. Will keep you posted if I learn anything else. My horse is not rubbing so I assume it does not itch. The hair just falls out at the root. (I tried the listerine- put it in a spray bottle- it did not stop the hair from falling out)

    wyoenglishrider wyoenglishrider
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    Ooh-thanks. I have never tried a vinegar or Listerine rinse. Will try the vinegar today. Thanks!

    greathorseart.com Original Poster
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    I use about a 1/4 c of vinegar to a small bucket of water and sponge that on. Then I rinse it out with plain water. I sprayed on the listerine full strength and did not rinse it out.

    northwestprincess northwestprincess
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    experienced the same thing with my arabian & mini, in their case it turned out to be a wee bug called a no-see-um, yes really, aka midge. they are tiny, coming out at night or dawn, biting the base of the tail & mane area. very hard to control, all of the suggestions above help, along with a fly repellent which may assist ~
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    greathorseart.com Original Poster
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    Did your horse itch and rub? With midges? Mine does not

    northwestprincess northwestprincess
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    One did, one did not. The arab just had a bald spot at the base of his tail, the mini rubbed on everything and anything !

    kindle kindle
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    tail and mane hair losses are indicatons of allergies, if worms are not detected, or fence rubbing going on (which also sometimes allergy caused).
    my horse Nashville had a multiple of allergies, and which the country vets at that time had no idea what was going on with him. but he lost all the hair at the top of the tail at the butt and it looked really funny being bald top and hair bottom tail.
    what I had to do was get a allergy blood panel, and identify the allergies, then the specialized vet had the anti-immune vaccines made from his blood. we did these injections for 3 years and now my boy has a beautiful tail again, and a awesome shine coat all the time. no more shots and no more allergies.
    with smart pak we had to supplement various minerals, or vitamins to help the immune systems and the vaccines, as with allergies there is a lot of nutritional losses with the poor horse having to fight the allergies off. so the smart pak vitamins and supplements have been a blessing in keeping my boy healthy all the way around.
    the first photo is after 3 years of dealing with and treating allergies, the 2nd photo is when the allergies were at the worst. but the first sign before the allergy break out was the tail hair losses, then the mane hair losses, and even some hoof problems.

    "There's a difference between interest and commitment. When you're interested in doing something, you do it only when it's convenient. When you're committed to something, you accept no excuses; only results." - Kenneth Blanchard

    Tucker’s Mom Tucker's Mom
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    I have posted pictures of Tucker’s tail before and after, using Hilton Herb’s Bye Bye Itch lotion (and the supplement) on his mane and tail, on my blog: http://calypsofarmeventers.blogspot.com/.
    The results were staggering. So much that I blogged about it and wrote the company!

    greathorseart.com Original Poster
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    thank you for the added information. my mare is not itching in the tail area. she does have a hypersensitivity to bug bites and she has some bumps on her back that seem to itch. She is happy when I scratch them.
    Its the way the hair falls out that is perplexing. there is no rubbing.
    just can take out hairs by the root just by touching it. When I rinse out her tail I get loads of short tail hairs out on the wash rack. I am not using shampoo when I rinse her tail- just cool water to get the dust out.

    Any other ideas or experiences would be sincerely appreciated.
    I have an equine nutritionist coming out to look at her next week.
    I had a mane hair sample analysis done and it shows some deficiencies and imbalances. I have had her on smart pak supplements for quite some time so its disappointing that there are problems in the nutrition side of things.

    Valancycouture
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    I had the same problem last year, out of nowhere my mare starting loosing her beautiful and long tail hair right from the root. She wasnt rubbing either. We figured it was the no-see-um bugs, evidently they come out when it starts getting moist out? I used a medicated shampoo, saw a little result, but not much. It ended up going away once the weather dried up a bit. Hoping it doesnt come back this winter.

    greathorseart.com Original Poster
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    its seems to be the consensus the cause is the no-see-ums. My horse had the problem starting in the spring and it got worse over the summer. Its happened several years now.
    I tried everything including the medicated shampoo. Hair just now started not coming out. I am going to start the combo of the listerine and bug spray earlier next year – maybe keep spraying on the listerine from now until then and see if I can prevent the next cycle. My horse’s tail is really thin now. She won’t have any tail left if this happens again next year.
    Thanks for all of your replies. I really appreciated it.
    (original poster)

    Tucker’s Mom Tucker's Mom
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    The only way to deal with noseeums is to keep them in at night. Or at least, dusk and dawn, when they feast.

    greathorseart.com Original Poster
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    she is in at night….

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