September 5, 2013 at 11:31 ambobby2865 Original PosterTopics Started: 1Replies Posted: 0
Does anyone have any tips on getting a horse with laminitis sound (riding) again? So far we’ve been through stem cell therapy, soft ride boots, backwards shoes, removing all the dead lamina, large soft dirt pen and a low starch diet. The time since he was first diagnosed was November 2012, but I’ve heard that it can sometimes take up to 2 years for full recovery and new hoof growth. Are there any supplements and/or rehab ideas anyone one has tried that have worked? My horse is sound enough to be very comfortable with his own weight and he loves playing/running/bucking with the other horses next to his pen, but I would like to get him ride-able again. Would love any suggestions! Thank you so muchSeptember 5, 2013 at 11:53 amold country girlTopics Started: 1Replies Posted: 8
I have found that the low starch/sugar diet is the right start. I had a mustang that ate too rich a food, and had laminitis too. I feed only Chaffhaye now, it is great! Proper Barefoot Trimming is your next step. I have also heard, but not tried putting about 4 to 6 inches of pea gravel in the floor of the stall. Not only does it drain well, but the itty bitty size of the rounded gravel helps them to rotate their feet as they step around in there, and doesn’t get caught in the frogs. The more walking they do, the better. Pretty soon the floor of their hoofs will raise up into the concave form it should have, and your horse will be better. Good luck, and yes, it can take several months to fix, but sounds like you are well on your way.September 5, 2013 at 12:04 pmSeptember 8, 2013 at 11:26 pmequinemechanicTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 2
The best results I have seen is with barefoot, boots and pads. Shoes by nature, decrease the circulation to the feet. Easycare makes nice products that can help your situation. The only draw back is the feet tend to get thrush when booted, but tea tree oil used regularly on frogs will keep it under control. I remove boots 2 times a day to air the boots and feet out. I am stretching out the time periods by checking the digital pulse and doing small incremental changes, about 15 min. each day.September 9, 2013 at 5:58 pmNinaJDTopics Started: 8Replies Posted: 139
It typically takes a year for a whole new hoof to grow out. Have you put him on a biotin supplement? this will help some as well.
Is he broke enough to put a small child on him in a round pen and see how he does? Maybe start with that and slowly up the weight, see how he does each time.
What does your vet/farrier say? I would get their opinion and listen to your horse. he’s going to tell you the most.
"Take the time it takes, so that it takes less time."
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Pat ParelliSeptember 21, 2013 at 9:07 amVTMorgan06Topics Started: 0Replies Posted: 4
Before you go with all kinds of shoeing and feed changes, find out WHY your horse developed laminitis in the. First place. There’s a list of reasons from excessive conduction to a variety of metabolic disorders. Until you isolate the cause, you cannot treat the laminitis. For example, if your horse has cushings or a thyroid problem, but you haven’t tested him to start the proper medication, but you’re pulling/changing shoes and keeping him off grass, you’re not addressing the problem and your horse will continue to become more laminitic.
When were the last set of films taken? If you have not yet done so, DO IT NOW! You need to continue to x-Ray to make sure the horse hasn’t rotated. You won’t know if/how much rotation there is unless you have films to compare to.
I would get your vet out right away for x-rays and to discuss causes. Laminitis can be a very chronic disease, and it can quickly turn to serious founder if you do not treat it properly.September 21, 2013 at 6:59 pmluckypennyequestrianTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 1
Wow, I would have loved all the options and treatments your horse received. My mare has laminitis and no one in the area could really treat her. After researching, the number one thing I did was diet and proper barefoot trimming. We gave her a year off- put her on smartpaks metabolic supplement and farriers formula, along with purina well solve(expensive- but she only gets >0.5 lbs twice daily with supplements), and little pasture or hay. It took well over a year, I cheated and started riding a little 8 months in. We just walked and I put her in easyboots if needed. I have kept her up on this and she stays sound 98% of the time. Good luck with your horse. So hard to see them go through this disease.October 1, 2013 at 10:34 pmDapperEquineTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 7
I agree with everything VTMorgan06 said. Start from the source, and get x-rays. My vet was even able to email me the x-rays which I then showed to my farrier — if you have this option, take it! It was priceless.
My OTTB has struggled with chronic laminitis for about two and a half years and the keys for him were a great farrier, LinPro, and Happy Hoofwear shoes.
Depending on the severity, I would generally agree with keeping a laminitic horse barefoot when possible, however, my OTTB has such thin soles that stepping on a small rock or simply getting too much footing stuck in his hoof then running on it can give him bruises and subsequent abscesses. This is where the Happy Hoofwear shoes came in really handy. They are made out of polyurethane and are flexible. I could write an essay of all the reasons I love them, but I think the main benefit in regards to laminitis was that they allowed the hoof to move, therefore promoting circulation, and making my horse’s hooves grow a lot faster. And if your horse is anything like mine, he may have large chunks of hoof wall missing from hoof resections to remove dead lamina. The Happy Hoofwear are light and my farrier was not only able to use very small nails to nail them on, but he used the clear shoes so he could more precisely see where he was putting each nail.
The thing that has probably helped my horse the most (other than my saint of a farrier) is the supplement LinPro. I always thought hooves only grew from the coronet band down. He kept growing hoof wall from the coronet band, but it wasn’t attached very well and continually cracked and broke off — leaving us back where we started. I discovered LinPro about two years into my horse’s problems, and it made a MASSIVE difference. LinPro seemed to help the hoof wall grow outward from the inside of the hoof. Like I said, I didn’t know the hoof wall could do that, but I was totally amazed at the new growth. Within a couple months, he had grown enough (sturdy!) hoof wall that he was sound, the farrier could nail into the new growth, and HE’S BEEN SOUND EVER SINCE. I’ve even started riding him lightly again over the past month. For that two years prior, he was probably only sound about a third of the time in the pasture, and only a handful of times under saddle.
Anyway, sorry for writing such a novel, but I know how frustrating it can be to try a million different tactics over long periods of time and still not have a sound horse. It sounds like yours is well on his way to recovery! Good luckOctober 23, 2013 at 12:54 pmstockshowkid’97Topics Started: 3Replies Posted: 31
Wow, I would have loved all the options and treatments your horse received.
I know right? My girl has had laminitis for a long time and I am just so tired of it. >.<
Ok so what I’ve done is find an A+++++ farrier who is willing to work with the problem (my first one sucked and made her worse), and then when I found him, he recommended I put her on Farriers Formula. That stuff is awesome I tell you. (Picky eater approved too! Smells like V8 so yeah!)
So I’ve had her on it for 2 months now, and she isn’t is as much pain as she used to be before, not a lot of limping and she runs at liberty now!!! Her hooves look great and she still can’t be ridden, might be a long while, might be never again, don’t know.
I’ve noticed growth to her hoof wall (our major problem is not enough wall) so far it’s working and I love it.
He also said I need to give her exercise (in hand) so that the hoof wall will get the idea it needs to grow grow grow! And that’s been helping too.
I also have her on a supplement called Remission. That is for horses that are prone to becoming laminitis suspects. I think it helps, not as much as the FF, but I use it in conjunction with the FF. Also she is barefoot.
So there’s my 2 cents worth, hope your horse feels better!! (and all of y’alls horses that have laminitis too!)
~If you come at it having only 15 minuets it will take all day... If you come at it having all day it will take you 15 minuets~November 15, 2013 at 11:29 amnaturalpastureTopics Started: 2Replies Posted: 61
Proper barefoot trimming and a good diet!!! This can’t be stressed enough!
This is an extreme case of laminitis, but read through the whole thing. It has some great information.
http://www.ironfreehoof.com/severe-laminitis-case-study.htmlNovember 15, 2013 at 3:14 pmpheetsTopics Started: 5Replies Posted: 475
Another LinPro vote here, if supplements are being considered.
Sure there's right and wrong but mostly there's just a whole lotta different.November 17, 2013 at 6:36 pmnaturalpastureTopics Started: 2Replies Posted: 61
I always come up with more after I think about something for a while!
A proper trim will do no good if the cause of his laminitis is not addressed. The diet and lifestyle of the horse play a huge role in determining if he will be sound and ride-able or an “ouchy” pasture pet.
One of the most important aspects of a proper trim is trimming the hoof wall so it grows exactly parallel to the lamina. This ensures the lamina and the hoof wall are tightly connected preventing the coffin bone from sinking any more in the future. Another important aspect is keeping his heels low. This keeps the coffin bone parallel to the ground and prevents unnecessary stress on the lamina.
Here is an article that really goes into the details of laminitis (diet and trimming). It is really informative.
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