April 2, 2015 at 3:03 pm
Selena, my new girl, has a low palate, and a 4.75″ mouth. I cannot find a bit that is not too thick for her (12 mm would probably be good). Myler measures bits very oddly, so that their 4.75 is actually 5.25, and I cannot use one of theirs.
She goes very nicely in the sort of hackamore/bitless bridle thing her previous owner made for her (and which she gave me), but I really cannot show in it.
Any ideas? Even the pony bits I have looked at are too thick. Surely I am not alone here.
It is never the horse's faultApril 4, 2015 at 11:03 am
Can you ask Selena’s owner if she has ever worn a bit – and if so what was it? I can tell you that if she hasn’t worn one, you may have your work cut out for you.
Alois Podhajsky: “When I hear somebody talk about a horse being stupid, I figure it’s a sure sign that animal has outfoxed them. ...April 4, 2015 at 11:34 am
I did ask, and she had been ridden with a bit, but finding one is seriously trying my patience. Used to go in a snaffle, but she wasn’t sure what type, and it seems that big thick mouths are the “in” thing now. No trouble finding a lot of types, but sizes are very restricted in choice.
It is never the horse's faultApril 4, 2015 at 11:45 am
The Distance Depot has a 5″ french link. You could try it?
They also have the wonder bit:
I like the DD- it’s a supplier for endurance riders and have ordered from them many times. Endurance horses are mostly arabs, so they probably have something Selena could wear comfortably.
Alois Podhajsky: “When I hear somebody talk about a horse being stupid, I figure it’s a sure sign that animal has outfoxed them. ...April 4, 2015 at 12:51 pm
5″ is way too big. 4.5 is too small, and 4.75 is the best fit, lengthwise, although not perfect. I’ll check this place out – thanks!
It is never the horse's faultApril 5, 2015 at 6:03 pmJoan FryTopics Started: 11Replies Posted: 324
Hi, Joe-Joe! I tried to answer you earlier but I had “timed out.” So I went outside, picked some asparagus, then picked stones out of my new riding ring, and here I am. DoverSaddlery.com has a huge bit selection. I think I bought the Dr. Bristol Boo loves so much from Dover. A lot of the bits look thin but pricey–$200 for a bit seems excessive to me (I’m looking at 3 and 1/2 pp. of Sprenger bits), unless it’s exactly what you want and you can’t find anything else. Happy hunting!April 5, 2015 at 7:28 pm
Joan – Dover and I have had several conversations about bits. They do not have one single bit that would work for her. Either too thick or too large, except for one that was too thick and too small. Thinking of opening my own forge! Joe Joe is also a 4.75, but he is okay with his Neue Schule bit ($125!!!!!). Myler has one that I thought would work, but they measure differently, and their 4.75 is actually 5.25 and way too big for her.
It is never the horse's faultApril 5, 2015 at 10:22 pm
Joan, my traditional paso bit with the copper rollers in the spoon was double that and I bought it used from Mischief’s trainer. The custom ones cost a ransom.
J-J – was Distance Depot helpful? Arabs have such small heads, you may have to go to a breed specific supplier. Try contacting an arab farm – speak to the trainer – he might have something you can use.
Bitless is gaining in popularity in shows – sometimes they’ll let you show without a bit. Dressage is out of the question, though.
Alois Podhajsky: “When I hear somebody talk about a horse being stupid, I figure it’s a sure sign that animal has outfoxed them. ...April 6, 2015 at 4:55 am
Mapale – no, not really. The bits they showed were way too much bit for her. I sent them an email, but so far they have not replied. Since i want her to do (more or less) dressage-like things, my options are restricted. She goes okay without one, but I think I can feel what my horses are thinking of doing or planning to do with a bit better than without one.
Does anyone think using bit guards would help make a bit seem correct lengthwise?
It is never the horse's faultApril 6, 2015 at 8:05 amG & STopics Started: 16Replies Posted: 253
One of my wholesale suppliers has a SS half cheek single jointed snaffle in a 4-3/4 length for $17, which appears in the photo to have a fairly narrow diameter. If you are not familiar with half cheek bits, they look like a standard full cheek bit, but with cheeks that only go down, although technically I suppose one could use the bit the cheeks up. They are usually used for driving, but I think they are actually dressage legal. The normal rule is that a bit has to be specifically listed as not being legal for dressage, otherwise it is. I need to order some stuff from this supplier anyway in the next week or so, and I could order a bit & ship it to you. No guarantee it is what you are looking for, but at least it would be a relatively inexpensive purchase, if it doesn’t work.April 6, 2015 at 8:10 am
I have a couple of half-cheek bits (old, from when I was young), so am familiar with them. Rather than having you order one, is there some way you could get them to tell you what the mouth diameter is? The side to side length isn’t hard to find, but all I find are bits that are just way too thick. I also dislike single joints, particularly for a horse with a low palate. I am just too picky.
Deeply appreciate the offer!
It is never the horse's faultApril 6, 2015 at 8:19 amG & STopics Started: 16Replies Posted: 253
I will see what I can do. I did remember you prefer double jointed, but I did not find any double jointed ones in a 4-3/4″ that look narrow enough in the photos to be what you are looking for.April 6, 2015 at 8:23 am
Same problem I am having. Do bit manufacturers think everyone has a horse with a big head? I’ve even been looking at pony bits, with no success (yet). Looked at Arabian bits, but they were really, really scary looking.
It is never the horse's faultApril 6, 2015 at 4:13 pmJoan FryTopics Started: 11Replies Posted: 324
I’ve never used bit guards. Do you know how wide they are? They might be worth investigating. I’m surprised that you can’t find what you’re looking for in a pony bit. Sounds very frustrating!April 6, 2015 at 5:29 pm
It is extremely frustrating! I have bit guards, but again, one cannot show in them. They might do for just riding. The pony bits I have seen are either too small, or just as thick as those for horses.
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