March 20, 2014 at 10:57 am
My 3 year old TB has a real problem with overreaching. Last night before our training session, I noticed he was holding his front left leg funny. I looked and saw he had gashed himself real good on the bulb of his foot. I train with protective boots, so I know this doesn’t happen when we are training, it’s something he’s doing while playing during turnout. Any advice? I have both my farrier and the vet coming out tomorrow. My arab used to overreach, but he never used to hurt himself.March 20, 2014 at 3:11 pmTWH GirlTopics Started: 2Replies Posted: 31
I’ve turned my overreaching 11 yr old TWH gelding out to pasture with Davis rubber bell boots on. That helped him. He’s probably a bit quieter than a 3 yr old TB though! lolMarch 20, 2014 at 5:39 pmIrishMelodyTopics Started: 7Replies Posted: 27
My sister’s TB overreaches as well and in general rips off her front shoes in about a week. She gets turned out with no turns and then plain Davis bell boots over those. Sometimes my sister duct tapes too just for an extra layer. I have heard the Davis bell boots rub pretty bad. I prefer to use Classic Equine DyNo turn boots. They are a snug fit, don’t rub that I’ve seen and dirt doesn’t travel up the boot. Aren’t as easy to hose off as the rubber Davis, but oh well.
A lot of the horses I have known who wear bell boots almost all the time are TBs, I think it must be a breed thing.March 28, 2014 at 11:13 amlaura_schaferTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 2
In the summer time I keep the italian bell boots on my gelding 24/7. My trainer does the same for her gelding. It stopped him from injuring himself and stopped him from pulling his front shoes off. They are definitely worth the $30!
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Thank you all so much for your advice. My farrier cut his back feet very different from what was previously done. He said that while his motion won’t be as big, since he’s not performing right now, it will help him with his problem. I am going to take all your advice, though, as well, and keep bell boots on him while he’s turned out. No sense getting him hurt. Again, thank you all!!!April 5, 2014 at 9:46 amNinaJDTopics Started: 8Replies Posted: 139
When I first got Atreyu he over reached as well.
My farrier felt it was due to not being trimmed in so long and as the months went on and he was trimmed regularly and correctly it went away. Took 5 months, but he no longer over reaches.
It could just be a trimming issue.
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Pat ParelliApril 6, 2014 at 8:40 amburlcreekTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 3
Absolutely agree with NinaJD. Trimming could definitely be a big part of the issue. (although being a young TB it’s probably not all of the problem) Long toes are a no no front and back. He may need his front toes ‘rolled slightly to help him break over sooner so his front feet get out of the way of his hind easier. Not seeing him in person though these things are just theory and guessing. He may already be trimmed properly for his conformation.
We have a QH gelding that lives in bell boots – 2 pairs -1 med and 1 large at a time. He doesn’t overreach though – he steps down sideways on the side of his foot and pulls his shoes off when he’s playing – we’ve watched shoes fly through the air when he bucks…… 🙂 Being horses they’ll think of some way new to cause us headaches every day.April 7, 2014 at 8:30 pmgallopingbunnyTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 3
Check out ScienceofMotion.com. The answer may be an imbalance of the back muscles or something else. My horse used to have to wear boots all of the time but since I have taken the Inhand Course mentioned on this website, I have no more problems with overreaching and other things!April 8, 2014 at 7:48 amburlcreekTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 3
Another good idea gallopingbunny. I didn’t even think of that but it definitely plays a part.April 8, 2014 at 10:13 am
Thank you for that gallopingbunny!! Tommy was a rescue and extremely malnourished. He has only been with me for about 6 months. His motion is very different, as he spent his first two years of his life in a cramped stall. His rescuers said he didn’t know how to run when he first arrived. Since then, he has blossomed, but still has a long way to go. I will check that out. I’m certain that it is part of the problem. He is a big mover, but not knowing where or how to place his legs is challenging. You’d have to see a video of him running to understand what I mean. You would also see his heart and spirit, and understand why it’s been worth all the work. He’ll be an awesome horse when he is done. Thank you for all your responses!! I really appreciate it, and Tommy does too!!April 8, 2014 at 11:00 amgallopingbunnyTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 3
Hi Tommy Girl – the Inhand course offered at Science of Motion is the BEST MJONEY I HAVE EVER SPENT ON MY HORSES! Jean Luc Cornille has studied the biomechanics of horses to the utmost degree and shares his knowledge willingly. There is a free forum that you will be invited to join when you get the Inhand course and it is worth it’s weight in gold too! He gives proof of rehabbing all kinds of maladies – kissing spine; navicular; peculiar gaits – you name it! He is away ahead of his time with information, and everything is verified by science and research!!His love for horses is unbelievable!April 9, 2014 at 12:24 pmlovemypintoTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 1
Your boy is overreaching, OK. Have his farrier roll his toes on the hind hooves. I think with over exuberate play, ie: the pasture even in the stall….they do get creative at times. The bell boots are a good thing. My guy occasionally over reaches in play rather than work sessions. So try the rolling of the toes. Also as he becomes more balances and knows where his feet are…he should do this less and less. You may have to put shoes on him too, depending on your farrier so the toes can be rolled. Rolling the toes will cause him to break over a little quicker. Its not a bad thing.April 20, 2014 at 12:31 pmmgmfarmTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 6
My TB/Morgan gelding had the same problem. His normal stride has a 8-16 inch over-reach, and can get to 30″ when he really gets moving. (Yes, we’ve measured it, more than once.) At 6yo he damaged a front heel so bad he was out of commission nearly all summer – got him healed and he did it again! My farrier fixed the problem by changing his trimming. Took a couple of tries to get the fine tuning just right, but no more damage since. No more pulled off shoes, no more cut heels. And no more bell boots (he’ll pull them off inside a minute and destroy the boots while he’s at it!) The difference in his stride is barely noticeable. Actually, he moves better after the correction! At 11 now, we haven’t had the problem at all. And yes, he did it in the pasture, but would also hit front boots during a workout. My farrier specializes in corrective and therapeutic trimming & shoeing.April 20, 2014 at 6:37 pmfiddleronthehoofTopics Started: 1Replies Posted: 6
There is something else you might consider. I have a racking horse who over strides 18-24″ if not more. He NEVER hits himself, forges or pulls a shoe. Why? He is barefoot. Most horses without big hoof problems can go barefoot. Young horses, especially, who have not worn shoes for years and years can transition quickly to barefoot. The use of hoof boots when necessary will help as well. Most disciplines will allow you to show barefoot or in boots. With a correct true barefoot trim your horse’s stride will not be aversely affected and may even be enhanced. Barefoot allows the hoof to expand and contract naturally making many hoof problems disappear or never happen. My guy lives in a stall but never has thrush. Far less navicular and other problems occur in the barefoot horse. Most farriers are not trained in barefoot trimming and most will tell you that your horse has to have shoes because of this. But there are barefoot trimmers all over and they aren’t that hard to find. Good luck with your horse.
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