March 13, 2015 at 6:40 pm
My horse Chance is terrible in his stall. He spins and spins like a annoying song on replay. He’ll stop to eat some hay but once its gone he back to it again. Ive tried everything from toys to haynets to stall gaurds(which reduced his spinning greatly) but nothing had worked. I work him fairly hard before I put him in but even that doesn’t work. One day every time he would spin ide tie him up, so for about 3 hours ide do that and he stoped for maybe a day. Does anyone know how to help control his spinning?March 13, 2015 at 9:27 pm
Does he get turned out at all? Neither of my horses will tolerate being in a stall for very long, so they both live in a field with a run-in shed. They are much happier there. It sounds as if he is bored, or simply not happy with his situation. Is this a new behavior? How long have you had him?
It is never the horse's faultMarch 13, 2015 at 9:30 pmpheetsTopics Started: 5Replies Posted: 477
Do you have turn out options available? Can he be set up in a run-in? Or more turn out time? Might also look into a vitamin or mineral deficiency. Have a chat with your vet since behavioural issues can stem from a thousand and one plus causes. Poor guy, I hope you can resolve this easily! Some horses just don’t fare well when confined.
Sure there's right and wrong but mostly there's just a whole lotta different.March 13, 2015 at 9:32 pm
Pheets – do we read minds?
It is never the horse's faultMarch 13, 2015 at 9:39 pm
Hes always out and ive had him for over a year and even his previous owners said he did that. the only time i bring him in is when there is bad weather.March 13, 2015 at 9:55 pmpheetsTopics Started: 5Replies Posted: 477
And perfect timing, too, Joe-Joe! I have to edit for an hour before I can post anything, then I still go back and edit a few times : D
Kenz, perhaps it is because he ISN’T in very often that he feels the confinement as an obstacle to his safety as opposed to the horse that is always in and finds his stall a source of security..some horses just don’t fare well with confinement : )
Sure there's right and wrong but mostly there's just a whole lotta different.March 14, 2015 at 5:25 am
If it is an established pattern, it may be more difficult to cure. How is he in the stall when you are grooming him and playing with him? Do you board or keep him at home? Is it possible to have a run-in for when the weather is bad or a stall that opens to his pasture so he can go in on his own in foul weather? Either of those might be better options if they are available, so he doesn’t hurt himself. You could also try a calming supplement to see if it helps. Or, bring him in daily for short periods of time (say 15 minutes to start) and gradually lengthen the time as he improves (if he does). Even though I would love to have mine in stalls for my convenience, I have them on field board because they prefer it. Living in boxes is just not natural for them, and some just don’t ever take well to it.
It is never the horse's faultMarch 14, 2015 at 6:30 am
We own our own farm we have 2 pastures (of 4) with runin sheds but our boarders have their horses in those. We did have 3 but the one our horses are in now blew down A while back. There are other horses in the barn to keep him company Too.March 14, 2015 at 7:24 am
From what you have said, it seems to be the confinement that bothers him, not a lack of company. Can you switch the boarders around and see how he does with the tun-in? If it helps, it would be an inexpensive fix for his issues.
It is never the horse's faultMarch 14, 2015 at 11:34 am
Once a horse has lived with unlimited turnout, it’s extremely tough to get him used to confinement again without resentments and evolving stereotypies. I follow the same protocol – that I put mine up in bad weather (cold AND wet). Having dealt with confining my horses when injured, I’ve found that the closed stall door is the problem. So I built small individual paddocks (20×20) outside each stall and now leave the stall door open. They stay in the barn – electively – why stand in rain and snow when you can’t go anywhere anyway? It makes a better hospital than a shut up stall unless complete immobility is required. And the horse has the option to poop outside – stalls are cleaner. I have a run-in/shedrow barn that we customized with doors across the front that convert it to barn stalls – with dutch doors at the side. In summer we open the front and covert it back to a run-in with better ventilation – it’s much cooler.
I’ve had to confine there for bad weather, injury and illness, and while the horse may still be restive, the option to be in the open helped settle the horse.
I use the small paddocks on vet and farrier days as well – very handy. Hope this could be an option for you. Maybe one stall with a small paddock just for your Chance?
Alois Podhajsky: “When I hear somebody talk about a horse being stupid, I figure it’s a sure sign that animal has outfoxed them. ...March 14, 2015 at 2:46 pm
Run-in, not tun-in. Teeny print makes editing difficult! Can’t see what I wrote.
It is never the horse's faultMarch 14, 2015 at 8:17 pm
Although a good idea its impossible to build paddocks because tge way our barn is made. It would only be worse to move him to a different stall. He has a stall guard up in front of his stall. His door is open. Cause of how bad the winter has been hes been in almost every night since late January. He got thrush in mid February because of being out to much In this Weather.March 14, 2015 at 11:20 pm
I see what you mean. Then I have another idea – a mirror – there are those that are sturdy enough for stalls but I don’t know where to find them – something like polished stainless steel – I have seen this recommended for other stereotypies. It might just stop the spinning or he might just ignore it. The other is an Uncle Jimmys licky-thing or snack toy. When I had to put my horses up this winter I hung those in their stalls and it kept them busy (I have stall cameras). There are low sugar ones if that is a concern.
Take heart – the good weather is coming. This awful winter can’t last forever.
Comments on the stall mirror:
Alois Podhajsky: “When I hear somebody talk about a horse being stupid, I figure it’s a sure sign that animal has outfoxed them. ...March 14, 2015 at 11:32 pm
I just remembered another thing when Carmagirl had to be confined to a stall for tendon injury. She really hated it, and I had to try and keep her calm. A radio kept her company and helped. That may not be your boy’s worry, but then again the sound, if he likes it, can give him the mental stimulation he needs. Just tossing anything out there in the hopes something will help!
Alois Podhajsky: “When I hear somebody talk about a horse being stupid, I figure it’s a sure sign that animal has outfoxed them. ...March 31, 2015 at 11:51 amG & STopics Started: 16Replies Posted: 253
Stainless steel mirror.
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