October 15, 2013 at 3:02 amwoodlau14 Original PosterTopics Started: 1Replies Posted: 0
My 5 y/o TB recently tied-up for the first time, and my vet found that she has high muscle enzyme levels after testing her blood. He recommended a low carb, high fat diet for her. After doing a little research, I have found that the carb level (or NSC %) of her feed should be less then 10-12%. However, when I find a low-carb feed, it is also low in fat, and vice versa. The nutritionist at LMF feeds suggested I try their Showtime or Gold feeds before trying their Low LMF feed, though Showtime and Gold both have NSC levels above 10% (somewhere in the 20’s I believe). Since the carbs are what is causing the tying up, I would think that my top priority would be to get the NSC level down low, then add fat to balance the loss of energy. We have just switched her hay from alfalfa to grass and she gets one cup of Purina Ultium and about 3 cups of beet pulp (expanded). She also is on pasture about 12 hours/day. She is a fairly hard keeper, being a TB in moderate work, but isn’t picky. Does anyone have recommendations of what I should feed? I’ve looked into Triple Crown, LMF, Purina, and Safe Choice and still I’m not quite satisfied. Thanks in advance!October 15, 2013 at 11:22 amSweeter_than_Sugar777Topics Started: 1Replies Posted: 6
well I have been feeding my horses what is called main menu and they have no issue it is a pellet and I also feed McCauleys and its a breaking down food “easy to digest” and they abosoulutly love it. I hope this helped
When Pigs Fly, Sweeter_than_Sugar777October 17, 2013 at 7:32 pmrjTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 1
Have you heard of Tribute? I like essential K, it’s a Low Starch concentrate supplement that can be fed as a sole grain.
Purina Amplify is another supplement, I know a horse who was bought with an existing severe tying up syndrome, he has scars, his owner feeds him Amplify, w/Ration Balancer. This horse hasn’t tied up since she bought him.October 17, 2013 at 9:27 pmaeg6686Topics Started: 0Replies Posted: 2
I have a 5 year old OTTB. Back in June she tyed up. I was wondering, did they test your horse’s vitamin E and selenium levels? A deficiency can cause issues and my mare was slightly deficient in both. To be safe I placed her on a low starch food and did a lot of research around it. Pyro a Ultium is an excellent high fat low starch food. My mare was on it but it got to be quite pricey. I did further research and found that Blue Seal sentinel LS had almost everything the same as the purina and was approximately $7 less a bag. My horse seems to be doing well! On top of a feed change I dad vitamins E, selenium, and magnesium to her diet through a supplement that is meant for horses that tie up. So far so good! Best of luck!October 17, 2013 at 9:29 pmaeg6686Topics Started: 0Replies Posted: 2
Purina Ultium *October 21, 2013 at 3:03 pmcrossayle326Topics Started: 1Replies Posted: 1
Feed Re-Leve, made by KER. My mare had problems with tying up and I tried different kinds of low-carb, high fat combos with no luck. Starting her on Re-Leve has been a critical component of keeping her healthy (along with lots of turnout and exercise!!).October 23, 2013 at 12:45 pmwebHorsedesignTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 1
My last jumper was diagnosed with the tying up syndrome several years ago. I worked with the vet who is doing research into this and HYPP. She has several feeds that she recommends, most of which I couldn’t get out here. I recommend that you look at the ADM feed named “Moorglo”.October 28, 2013 at 10:56 amRhinestone CowgirlTopics Started: 0Replies Posted: 20
I think you are probably going to have to add fat to a low starch grain and there’s probably no way around that, for a hard-keeper in moderate work. I have an Appy and Paint with lots of QH in their blood so have done a lot of research on this topic and feed low starch diets as a preventative. There are several excellent options in grain and supplements. They may not all be available where you’re at, but you should at least be able to find one or two options. You indicated you weren’t satisfied with Triple Crown or Purina, but is this because you were looking for adequate fat levels without having to supplement? Because both brands have high quality choices in low starch grains. Triple Crown in particular is just high quality all the way around with their fixed formulations and top grade ingredients. I would recommend you consider Triple Crown Low Starch, McCauley’s Alam, or KER Re-Leve, then add oil as necessary. I’ve used Triple Crown’s Rice Bran Oil Plus, which is highly palatable and gives great results. However, if you are looking for something that’s higher in Omega 3’s you’ll want to go with a flaxseed oil such as Nutramax Welactin, or Kauffmans Fish Oil. I haven’t tried the fish oil because I’ve heard it is more likely to be rejected by picky horses and I have a senior gelding hard keeper that is extremely picky so figured no sense throwing that money down the drain. Also you’ll want to pay attention to electrolytes and minerals to prevent imbalances and dehydration. Deficiencies and imbalances in calcium and magnesium can also contribute to muscular irritability and cramping. Excessive high calcium may be worse than too low since it interferes with the body’s ability to rapidly mobilize calcium from bone when needed during exercise. For days when your horse is in hard work, I would add 1 to 2 oz. of salt, plus an electrolyte balanced to sweat losses. For added control with tying up, consider Tie Free 24 by Peak Performance, which covers the major nutritional bases. There are several excellent articles on this subject by Horse Journal, you may be able to download some digital copies of the articles if you’re interested. Sorry for the long post but there’s a lot to cover on this topic. Good luck!
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